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7月7日追思会后波姬小丝接受“滚石”采访原文(附完整中文翻译)

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-19 10:17:56 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 MJ小丝 于 2010-5-19 10:19 编辑

回复 141# alextoalex


    93年的时候,他接受奥普拉采访说:我现在正在跟波姬小丝约会,有时候她上我这儿来,有时候我到她那儿去

奥普拉:那类女性可以quench your desire?(紧接着成家立室的问题)

MJ说:波姬小丝,我一直喜欢她;还有戴安娜罗斯,曾经我们兄弟住在她家里,我一直暗恋她
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发表于 2010-5-19 10:20:08 | 显示全部楼层
回复 142# MJ小丝
没人把这当圣旨,但是如果Brooke一而再,再而三的否认,你却非要给人家安上这段天长地久的情,Brooke实在是很冤枉了。

对你来说,只要是说他们俩仅仅是朋友关系的就是小报了;说他们俩是情人的,无论有多么不可靠,也是真实信息了。
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发表于 2010-5-19 10:22:55 | 显示全部楼层
MJ老爹的自传:
After a while Brooke decided to get a bachelor degree in one of the expensive universities on the West coast and Michael was constantly travelling because of his career. They didn’t see each other as often and their romantic relationship ended but they remained good friends.

Brooke had begun to attend university and Michael had fallen in love with a young dancer.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-19 10:27:20 | 显示全部楼层
回复 144# alextoalex


    对你来说,MJ亲自说过的话,你也不是无视吗?

你找的这些都是娱乐八卦杂志上的东西,能指望它们说出什么好的来?

连滚石这种比较正规的杂志都胡说八道,媒体,还能信什么?

不是我执拗,是MJ奥普拉采访上说过小丝跟戴安娜罗斯是她想要成家的对象,由不得人不信

如果他只是利用小丝做幌子,何必说自己想娶她?

Karen Faye跟Joe也都说过他们90年代的关系,比这些八卦杂志的胡编乱造总要靠谱
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回复 5# MJ小丝
是的,那时候MJ的白斑已到了快用棕色化妆品没法覆盖的地步,试想一下卸了装是眼圈和嘴边两大片白,颧骨是白的,剩下还是深综色,这对在乎外貌的艺人实在是太有毁自信心了....真不知那几年他私下里有多难过...
A glove was just a glove til MJ wore ONE.. A walk was just a walk til MJ MOONWALKED.. Love was just love til I fell in love with MJ FOREVER
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    还有一段说送戒指的,也找出来吧
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回复 142# MJ小丝

还有,滚石是全文刊登Brooke的话的,你首页登出的是US Magazine采访的全文(按照你说的小报,你怎么就信这个了呢http://www.usmagazine.com/celebr ... -was-asexual-200977),不明白情况请不要瞎说。

这是滚石的全文:
Michael Jackson Remembered, Rolling Stone, July 13th 2009

Everybody was always confused by our relationship. Nobody got it, and I didn’t really care. My mom was always very positive in a sweet way about him, and he loved my mom. My mom would joke with him and rib him like he was a little kid, so he always got a kick out of her. He used to say, “It’s great you can be that close with your mom,” because she was also my manager at the time, where he had a very different relationship with his father, and I think he envied that.

We maintained our relationship for so long because it was never not real. People expect anything in entertainment or Hollywood to be transient, and it’s not as interesting a story for us to have been lifelong friends. People want sordid details or they want big blowups, and the truth of the matter is, from the time we met when I was 13, we understood each other and became very good friends, and that was it, we didn’t need to make it into anything else. I went to high school and college and I forced that into my life, and he didn’t have that luxury. He would laugh, I would tell him about whatever happened at college or high school, and I think he just always felt it was too unattainable for him, so vicariously, I would share with him football games or cheerleading.

What did I think of his marriage to Lisa Marie? I think we’re not dealing with convention, so somebody like Michael, he’s not going to just fall in love with somebody and get married. I think there were a few people that he could identify with, and what I know about Lisa Marie, she was very sweet, she could identify with him, they could talk about things that I’m sure she understood with regards to her father. So I think he tried to create a convention for himself. There were times when he would ask me to marry him, and I would say, “You have me for the rest of your life, you don’t need to marry me, I’m going to go on and do my own life and have my own marriage and my own kids, and you’ll always have me.”

He never actually formally proposed to me, though. He would sort of say, “Why don’t we adopt a child together? The way your heart works is what I want in my life,” and I said to him, “You’re always going to have my heart, we don’t need to adopt a baby, and I think it’s wonderful that you want to have children, adopt a child.” I wanted to fall in love and get married and have my own babies, and I said, “I don’t think that you need to necessarily do that.” This was just before he married Lisa Marie in the Nineties, I guess. He had discussed it with me, and I said, “I don’t think that’s the best thing to do for me.” I was just out of college, and wanting to fall in love and have a fairy tale, I was holding on to that. He just felt so bad that there were so many little children in Romania in these orphanages, and he wanted to try to give them homes, and I really wanted to be able to do that with him, but it would have divided my life too much.

I hope when you write this, it doesn’t sound freakish. What it was was a young man who kept reaching to try to find happiness. I think he wanted to take his resources and make a difference to other people in their lives, and he knew that I wanted to do that in the world, too, so he would reach out to someone like me and say, “How can we make a difference, it’s easier to adopt a child if you’re two people.” He never said, formally, “Will you marry me,” it was never that for me, he never was that definitive, but I think he was a guy who kept searching for happiness.

The problem is when you try to bring that out and in this society, it turns into a tabloid sentence, which is, “He wanted Brooke Shields to live with him and adopt babies,” and it sounds ridiculous. And it never was that clear-cut. He found people he loved in his life and he didn’t want to let go of them and he wanted them all to live together because he didn’t want to go out into the outside world, which was so cruel and too much to handle, and it makes sense. I’ve seen many people in this position where they try to bring people into their circle, because going out of their life, just walking outside on the street is too much for them. That’s why he created Neverland, because he wanted to bring people in so that he didn’t have to leave and he could feel their happiness and he could somehow regain something that he felt he’d lost. So of course I was going to be one of the people he was going to call.

I can’t really guess why his last years were so challenging. I think just cumulatively, when you distance yourself that much for that long, and if you don’t have the healthy outlet creatively, because there was a period of time when I think his music was his strength, and that was where he could filter and pour himself into it, and it was clear, and he knew what to expect and he could make it what he wanted. His life, I think, was very hard to grasp, and I don’t know if the people around him were helping at all.

I don’t think he was surrounded by healthy people. I think he just created a world that he felt safe in, and we went out to dinner a lot less. We used to go out to restaurants — it was madness, but at least we could get to a restaurant and be at a table. Entering and leaving the restaurant was a mess, but we could at least do that, and slowly but surely, he stopped going out to restaurants. And he got thinner and thinner … at first, he made fun of me because when I was in college, there would be keg parties or whatever, and he was like, “I can’t believe you were drinking,” and I would say, “It’s college, that’s what you do in college, you drink, you get sick, and you don’t want to drink anymore, that’s the way it happens,” and he swore off all alcohol and he swore off everything, and he was so clean. He would make fun of me because I wasn’t as healthy.

My heart broke for him because once he felt the need to run — I felt like he ran. I was worried about him financially, I was worried about the kids, I was worried about his health. I always worried about his health, because I thought he was just too skinny. He would make fun of me, especially when I was in college, because I gained weight in college — what freshman doesn’t gain the freshman 15? — and I’d say, “I know you’re going to think I’m fat, but …” and it was a joke, but he also became very, very conscious of everything, and I used to say, “I think you’ve lost too much weight.” So I started worrying about his health from the thin standpoint.

I saw him less and less as our lives became different. At every major event in my life, he reached out to me, whether if it was when my dad died, when I had my first daughter, and had severe post-partum, we’d speak, and then it got more and more difficult to reach him, and some of the people in his life that I could call to get him, they were fired or they left or they went away, and in the last few years, it was harder to get the right number to get through to him.

I like to think that I was a good friend to him. That’s the way it always was, and our friendship never altered, it just stayed the course. No matter what was happening, the one thing that whenever we got on the phone with each other, he would just giggle or laugh and say, “Oh, Brooke,” and I was consistent, and I think that was important for both of us. I wanted him to know my kids, but it became harder to take him out and bring him into … it was just a trauma. I feel like he shouldn’t have gone that way. I’ve always maintained what a pure soul he was.
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发表于 2010-5-19 10:30:36 | 显示全部楼层
回复 148# MJ小丝
你自己找呗,这不是你最强有力的证据吗?该自己好好做研究不是吗?
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发表于 2010-5-19 10:31:13 | 显示全部楼层
小丝真的从来不承认两人是情人关系吗
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回复 151# 青玉蝶
是的,至少从1984年后就从来没有承认过。
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回复 152# alextoalex
谢谢,那么84年以前承认过吗?不好意思,我对这些太不了解了
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发表于 2010-5-19 10:50:43 | 显示全部楼层
楼主,尽管我是先MJ知道的小丝,而且之前一直非常喜欢她。但在和MJ的问题上,我对她是有看法的。说句您不爱听的话,她太聪明,太圆滑。
从MJ的言行中能感觉到MJ是非常爱她的,不管在自传里也好、采访里也好,都一再表示他们曾是恋爱关系。很可惜,就这么一点点事儿自始至终小丝都没承认过,并坚持说他们从来都是友谊。这让我很是不解,并且有些小小的愤怒。她为什么这样做?承认和MJ有恋爱关系怎么了?能有什么严重后果?而且自93年后,十多年的不来往,不管是什么原因都说不过去。我的感觉就是,她不愿把自己和麻烦不断的MJ牵扯到一起。

PS:我对小丝的质疑并不影响我对您的欣赏,您的很多观点我都非常赞同。这只是我对这件事的看法。如有冒犯,敬请见谅。
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发表于 2010-5-19 10:55:01 | 显示全部楼层
追思会后小丝满面笑容!让人觉得这女人是在作秀!
这个世界不知道MICHAEL的人有点可怜,知道他却不喜欢他的有点可悲!你在世时我没注意过你,但我将用我的余生来思念你!MICHAEL!
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回复 151# 青玉蝶


    她承认过

奥普拉采访中,奥普拉问她,你对他的感觉是哥哥多一点还是男友多一点?

Brooke说,我跟他亲近就跟过去的男友一样,但这不是一般意义上的爱,我没有兄弟,这种感觉跟那种是不同的
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回复  alextoalex


    还有一段说送戒指的,也找出来吧
MJ小丝 发表于 2010-5-19 10:28



    介招8错,介么套人还去挖材料给你送
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