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他这段时间是怎么了?

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发表于 2010-4-14 20:33:20 | 显示全部楼层
回复 79# dora

现在才知道这些真是种折磨,太伤心了
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发表于 2010-4-14 22:22:39 | 显示全部楼层
回复 79# dora


    你回来了 上次上论坛看到你被禁言了,挺遗憾的,有点为你不平。现在好了,你又能发言了,觉得你很有勇气,不怕被围攻
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发表于 2010-4-14 22:45:30 | 显示全部楼层
看了dora的发言才知道原来当时MJ的情况 真是比我想象中的要遭透了
原来看到MJ身体发福就猜想一定是服用激素性的药物
知道事实真相才会真正懂得MJ有多坚强
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发表于 2010-4-15 11:34:23 | 显示全部楼层
我的感觉是MJ那是心情非常不好,似乎是心理受了重大打击。
吃药倒不一定是了,因为MJ演出时的反应并不差。
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发表于 2010-4-15 21:33:13 | 显示全部楼层
那段时间在生病吧?好心疼啊……
Michael ,I still love you。。。。
And this is forever。。。
I  love  you  forever。。。
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发表于 2010-4-15 21:42:58 | 显示全部楼层
原来是生病吃药了呀。。。。
虽然那个时候还不是迈迷。。。现在回过头来看也一直觉得怪怪的。。。恩。。。。原来是这样的呀。。。还能说什么呢。。。希望你现在一切都好。。
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发表于 2010-4-15 21:47:49 | 显示全部楼层

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现在比较杯具,KEEN的贴改不了
那个是论坛以前的CESSY总结的
Tara 发表于 2010-4-14 18:44

    单发一帖呢?以前的帖很多人看过了就不会回去翻鸟……当然这太令人伤心了……
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发表于 2010-4-16 04:17:52 | 显示全部楼层
单发一帖呢?以前的帖很多人看过了就不会回去翻鸟……当然这太令人伤心了……
littlefat00 发表于 2010-4-15 21:47


一会儿直接叫老K把那条删了吧
MJ不愿提也就别提了,没必要所有歌迷都清楚这个事实
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发表于 2010-4-16 17:50:41 | 显示全部楼层
当时看30周年确实有和LS一些TX相同的感觉,现在才知道为什么。迈这一生所遭受的痛苦真不是俺们这些普通俗人能够想象得到的呀。
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发表于 2010-4-16 20:01:27 | 显示全部楼层
MJ在03年的采访中说过在鼻子上只动过两次手术,在那时后再动手术是不可能的,我的观点是MJ那时候长胖了一点,而且面部的妆很浓,眼睛的妆很奇怪,特别是眉毛,反正主要就是化妆的原因!!!
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发表于 2010-4-16 20:23:30 | 显示全部楼层
天啊!原来当时MJ身体情况这么糟糕,远比我想的严重!我知道他很坚强,但发现他的坚强远超乎我的想象!
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发表于 2010-4-17 17:44:30 | 显示全部楼层
这个是国外一个网友发信息跟我说的, 原本都不想拿来说。 为什么MJJC不可以讨论mj孩子和健康问题, 其实是mj ...
dora 发表于 2010-4-14 11:06



    这段看不懂啊
   是说狼疮严重了吗?
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发表于 2010-4-17 18:35:57 | 显示全部楼层
回复 100# Tara


我觉得可以借楼主的一楼编辑说明一下,不然有些不看回贴或是看过问答区的人都会以为MJ那时候整鼻子呢(我之前也这么认为)!会造成更大误会的。
有必要说明。
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发表于 2010-4-17 18:59:31 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dora 于 2010-4-17 19:26 编辑

回复 89# Tara
我也不知道为什么我被禁言在这里却可以发言 呵呵。


CESSY怎么得出那个结论的啊?
我以前一直被误导了
直到那个歌迷跟我说了才知道, 那个歌迷还给我另外两个msg。 既然第一个分享了,另两个我也在这里分享。虽然她说不要在论坛讨论, 但是我希望大家知道了能更体谅他。sorry mj.................
lupus is called the illnsess with 1000% faces. What gives lupus - problems with skin, bones, and when it's getting worse problems with organs. As it affects skin and also the membrane on organs. It produce ulcerations outside on the skin, and inside on the membranes. Those ulcerations can get worse and develop tumors.

chemotherapy is applied not only wth cancerous tumors. He needed to becuase it was in a delicate zone, and it could pervade to the brain. An ulceration on the brain means almost sure death. :-(

All I am saying to you, I've investigated this for months some years ago, during trial period, also discussed with doctors - my father is doctor as well, and as I've said those few fans. I mean they weren't together, it was a private hidden discussion on some Board - cannot say what Board - and everone said what he /she knew and suddenlly dots were put together, becuase everyone of us heard somethign about, or investigated this, and all pointed unto the same direction.

Why MIke didn't say it ? Simple, we know him... he didnt say nothing about vitiligo. He knew he got it from earlly 80s and he said only in 1993, when he couldn't hide anymore and all people were accusing him of hating his race. This is MIke, ultra secretive, and ultra afraid that he as artist would not be loved and cherish anymore, when the world will find his weaknesses, his illnesses.... I bet he also feared compassion.... he wanted admiration not compassion.

no, it was a secret. For real I do not talk nonsense. But PLEASE do not say this loud on Board or spread it. Even if now fans started to talk more, but then during trial it was prohibited, to discuss health issues... MJJForum put up a rule against it, and KOP put up controversy section to somehow hide all sort of delicate discussions in there, but lupus discussions weren't too encouraged even in controversy section....

There where on some Boards secret part of forums, with very limited access, only few invited could participate in discussions. I don't know how is the situation now, probably they closed that, but there were those sections. I know cause I've been invited onto one, for short period of time few months, then I was expelled and up to today I don't know why, I didnt ask. Then I dont know more.






Aparently Mike didn't want fans and the public to find out about his health problems, especially Lupus connected. So when for the first time some rumors spread, from up level Board administrators were informed that those discussions are not very well seen, and MJJProduction could close those Boards.... The same with discussions about MJ kids... Why do you think that even KOP Board got strong rules about this? I bet with this was the same thing. I am not sure but I can only guess...
I remember when those rules installed in here.... I think someone from 'up level', probably Mike himself found out and got upset. He probablly was saddened as father by these types of discussions and level of indiscretion



So the thing with oral cancer is directlly from Board administrators, they knew about this. Also a fan related to Teddy Riley knew as well, and knew about all sort of powerful drugs for lupus used. Necessary if not, Mike would have died back then. Huge amounds of cortisone and prednisone - that why he got bit fatter and got sleepy puffy eyes all the time during 2000-2002. Those are side affects from medicamentation, and those weren't painkillers. But part of normal medical treatment for lupus, in a severe flare, severe crisis.

And I beleive them, because I've researched this thing separatelly before finding those details from them.... Ive concluded the same, Mike discoid lupus entered unto full form around 2000, so since then he got SLE. That's severe disease. Sincerlly my father, he is a doctor told me - why he is touring???? Is he nuts, he will die out of it.  

What we have now.... him passed away.... it's in relation wih lupus, because in effort lupus gives very bad insomnia. When the periods are calmer, insomnia is not that bad. Also lupus can give heart attacks, paralysis, photofobia ( that's why Mike was even indoors with sunglasses ) even blindness etc many many complications... Patients with lupus are adviced not to work that much, rest a lot, care a lot about themselves and manage the stress... Because work and stress can make it lot worse.





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发表于 2010-4-17 20:52:35 | 显示全部楼层
回复 94# 芋艿叶子
叶子你好
我也只能在这里发言。其他板块还不行
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