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发表于 2009-11-27 19:31:21 | 显示全部楼层
顶一个再看~
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发表于 2009-11-27 22:11:24 | 显示全部楼层
说得好!痛快!!
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发表于 2009-11-28 19:59:22 | 显示全部楼层
解释什么啊,KEEN本来就是那样的人......
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发表于 2009-11-28 20:00:44 | 显示全部楼层
解释什么啊,KEEN本来就是那样的人...
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发表于 2009-11-28 20:24:43 | 显示全部楼层
楼主别转了 伤了兄弟们的心,何必和无知的人一般见识呢。

迈神永生!
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发表于 2009-11-28 20:40:18 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-11-28 21:25:36 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈~支持LZ啊~
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发表于 2009-11-28 21:36:27 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 昔日重来 于 2009-11-28 21:43 编辑

驳来自西安交大的山寨KEEN的狗P言论


顺便提醒各位,反击的同时不要用侮辱性语言
我们用事实说话


这个所谓的官网的人自己睁开眼睛好好看看你们放行的贴子里说的话!!前面是自己说的脏话,后面还虚伪地说什么“反击的同时不要用侮辱性语言”。我只是一个普通的曾经是这里的看客,现在觉得这里真是看不下去。顶着MJ的招牌,容纳阿谀马屁的言论,一看到不同的声音,觉得自己权利不知到有多大,立刻封人家的ID。 我声明,我与那个出版社可没有什么关系,就是看不下这样的事情,那书我看了,没觉得能影响我什么,而KEEN的书里不是照样有嘲笑MJ鼻子的言论?还有大段从这个往里一个旧帖子里摘的内容?作者是小麦,如果我没记错的话。

我的ID有人要封就封,这地方除了新手来穷叫唤惹人耻笑外没什么意思了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-11-29 01:35:06 | 显示全部楼层
驳来自西安交大的山寨KEEN的狗P言论


顺便提醒各位,反击的同时不要用侮辱性语言
我们用事实说话


这个所谓的官网的人自己睁开眼睛好好看看你们放行的贴子里说的话!!前面是自己说的脏话,后面还虚伪地说什 ...
昔日重来 发表于 2009-11-28 21:36

本帖驳的是山寨KEEN发表的言论,你胡搅蛮缠什么?!
你说你看了那本书觉得对你没什么影响,那是因为你根本不是迈迷,所以对任何言论都无关痛痒。
本人在这个帖子里有什么侮辱性语言?麻烦你指出来!
http://weibo.com/shluyanling
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发表于 2009-11-29 01:43:09 | 显示全部楼层
昔日重来!!!
这个人估计是西安XX大派来的间谍。。。建议管理员永久封号。。
思考者,并践行着稍带无耻的意淫;愤青中毒很深
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发表于 2009-11-29 08:13:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 昔日重来 于 2009-11-29 08:23 编辑
本帖驳的是山寨KEEN发表的言论,你胡搅蛮缠什么?!
你说你看了那本书觉得对你没什么影响,那是因为你根本不是迈迷,所以对任何言论都无关痛痒。
本人在这个帖子里有什么侮辱性语言?麻烦你指出来!
此生只爱MJ 发表于 2009-11-29 01:35


你可以白痴,但千万别把人家都当成白痴!别说什么没有读过这本书就没有发言权,只要看看那个作者是谁就够让歌迷恶心的了,谁买他的书才是世界上最NB的白痴!

顺便提醒各位,反击的同时不要用侮辱性语言
我们用事实说话


你的脏话俯拾皆是,你还好意思问我?要不就是你说脏话说惯嘴了,自己都不觉得了。我随便从你的贴子最后找了这段,你要觉得不是脏话我也没话说。我只想说,这里有些人素质很差,但这还不是最坏的,坏在自己素质差还要装出道貌岸然的模样,。你有什么资格提醒回帖的“反击的同时不要用侮辱性语言”?你自己就脏话连篇?什么不说,就看你的标题:“ 驳来自西安交大的山寨KEEN的狗P言论”,就这样的话也堂而皇之地放在这里,真是让人没话说。
至于看书就要受影响,不受影响就不是迈迷的论调,又一次证明你素质低劣。我这么说吧,你看《死亡日记》你就会自杀?你看什么就一定要受影响? 你自己脑子干什么用的?要是看了本书就被同化了,那才证明你立场不坚定,对MJ不够了解,你才不是真正的迈迷呢!
再说,不是迈迷就没有资格指出你的错误?谁天生是迈迷?说的好像天下只有你一个人维护MJ一样,就你这素质,我看,不说你跟风也够呛!!
在这里说几句吹捧的话就能得到一群盲目者的欢呼和追捧,要是把以前老迈迷的贴子翻出来,没准有些人还敢叫骂“封贴”呢!有些人在这里上蹿下跳,能写点正经的东西吗?除了说些没用的废话、乱叫乱嚷,还能干什么?所以难怪贴吧和天涯有人说这里现在基本废了。
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发表于 2009-11-29 08:30:53 | 显示全部楼层
告诉这里的管理员,要是你觉得这书里有不妥之处,怕误导没有经验的迈迷,你可以指出哪里哪里不妥,买不买由读者自己决定,不应该就那么在网上号召人家不买,毕竟言论、出版还是自由的。 KEEN的那本书里也与许多言论欠妥的地方,这书也不是一无是处。这两本书我都是在第一时间买到并阅读,其实很想在这里说说,不过又有几个冷静的人愿意坐下来看?这里现在还不是一片浮躁?先前还没有这么多MJ的正面报道的时候,这些现在叫的欢的人在哪?那时的迈迷看负面报道很多,怎么还是忠心耿耿?若说一点商业利益的考虑,是不是把自己伪装的太过分了?
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发表于 2009-11-29 08:36:27 | 显示全部楼层
再多说句,这个网就算是MJ认证的又怎么样?MJ认可的是那时候的MJJCN,那时这里的迈迷是一群可敬的人,MJ没认证错。但是,任何人、任何事,都在变化发展中,好的也会变坏,坏的也会变好,哪有一成不变的东西?要想维持自己的权威性,人的素质是根本。与这个网里的管理员与网友共勉。
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发表于 2009-11-29 08:53:01 | 显示全部楼层
看了LS几篇文章,不想说什么了。
贴两个链接给你,美国亚马逊网站和美国最大的MJFC迈克尔杰克逊歌迷网对于此书的评论,里面也包括从著名的《滚石》杂志摘录的对于这个作者的揭批。

http://www.amazon.com/Unmasked-F ... 59455786&sr=8-1

http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/in ... ents&Itemid=145

Buyer Beware - “Unmasked" Complete Trash      


In these sad times fans worldwide try to find away to get along with the pain of loosing Michael. They are buying albums, memorabilia and books. While there are some good books out there, there are many more authors who are trying to cash in on the name Michael Jackson. And we should not support them by spending on our money on their crap.

One of the best examples is Ian Halperin's unauthorized biography "Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson". Why not buy this book?  The answer is simple.  Because it is full of mistakes, fiction and unproven accusations.
The MJFC has done some background checking. Here are some details you should know before even considering spending a penny on “Unmasked.”

Ian Halperin is a Canadian journalist and writer who makes his money writing books on various celebrities, super-models and Hollywood in general. He is the author or coauthor of nine books on stars such as Celine Dion, James Taylor and Kurt Cobain - all of which contain very highly questionable material and often cite "unnamed sources". So you can't really say he is a specialist on Michael Jackson but rather a specialist in using famous people to make money.

As noted in The Link, Concordia's independent newspaper, Halperin's habit of publishing unsubstantiated statements goes back to April 1984 when an athletic director Ed Enos at Montreal’s  Concordia University filed a $100,000 suit against him for making allegations of improper conduct within the university's athletic department. Halperin was criminally charged with providing false testimony and lying under oath in the civil case.  Three different sources denied providing him with any of the information he claimed they had. Halperin fled to the UK to avoid criminal prosecution and remained there for 2.5 years before returning to face the court. He  served jail time for fleeing the country.

On top of everything else, Halperin is not above attempting to pad his own credentials.  Like his claim that he was given an award for journalism by Rolling Stone magazine. Rolling Stone had something to say about that.

“Rolling Stone did some digging today and determined that many of Halperin’s other assertions don't hold up. The first line of Halperin’s biography reads “Ian Halperin is also a former winner of the Rolling Stone magazine Award for Investigative Journalism.” This came as news to us, so we looked in our own archives and discovered this claim has been greatly exaggerated: He did win an RS honor, but it was the College Journalism Award in 1985 and it was split among the staff at Concordia University’s student newspaper in Montreal.”  

Halperin's unauthorized Michael Jackson biography was release in July 2009, just a few weeks after Michael's death. He used the following strange quote to release it: "I timed it because I knew around this time he was a candidate to die. I'm being totally up-front about that."

Journalist Roger Friedman dedicated an entire article on all the mistakes included in the biography on July 13, 2009:

"Michael Jackson U.K. Bio Riddled With Mistakes

A coming biography of Michael Jackson, due soon and excerpted in the New York Post over the weekend, is riddled with errors. Ian Halperin’s book will make salacious reading but is full of fiction, sources tell me. I could have told you that myself.

For one thing, Halperin’s new assertion that Jackson didn't know what his contract with AEG Live read is nonsense. [...] As one of my best sources on the AEG matter reiterates: “The contract always called for 31 shows and MJ had agreed to add 19 more when it was obvious how great the demand was.  He did not die from doing 50 shows over 9 months since he hadn't done one yet at the time of his death.  He never collapsed in rehearsal and worked long days both filming the mini-movies and rehearsing at home with Travis Payne.  He wasn't supposed to come to stage rehearsals until the entire company was ready.  This is the way he has always worked.” [MJFC note: This was also confirmed by Michael's manager Frank DiLeo in a recent interview.] So there.

As well: Halperin repeats nanny Grace Rwaramba’s assertion that somehow Michael was made to rent a house for $100,000 that was only worth $25,000 — and that the Nation of Islam was somehow involved. In fact, the house was found by Jackson’s short-lived manager Tohme Tohme, who has nothing to do with the Nation of Islam. The house is said to be owned by a Tunisian Jew. The irony here is that it was Rwaramba  herself who brought the Nation of Islam into Jackson’s life in 2003.

There’s more, including Halperin’s insane claim that Michael had at least two gay lovers in the last years, that he dressed as a woman and slipped out of the house to meet one of them. Unfortunately, Halperin’s timelines are all wrong. Plus, everyone knows that Michael Jackson was a germ freak. The behavior described by Halperin defies all Jack[son]-like logic.

Beware these sudden “tell alls” and “expert biographies” of Michael Jackson. You can write anything about the dead. This party is only getting started."

So if you have some money to spend, rather donate it to one of the many charities that Michael supported rather than filling the pockets of this "author" which will not bring you any further insight on Michael Jackson.  It will only support the livelihood of this vulture.

Source: MJFC / Wikipedia / Showbiz411.com / Concordia.ca / Rolling Stone Magazine.com
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发表于 2009-11-29 09:04:46 | 显示全部楼层
既然是这样的话,那您更应该早点把这些东西贴上来,这才叫说话有理有据,否则什么凭据也没有,那怎么能叫人信服呢?
还有,我的看法是,只有读过才有发言权,书店里不买也一样可以看,但是我发现这里有很多人很可笑,书都没看过,只盲目的跟风乱叫,这种做法我真是闻所未闻。
只有自己看了大量的资料,才有鉴别能力,这是起码的常识,越是喜欢一个人,越应该尽可能多地全面了解,而不是道听途说。
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