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发表于 2009-8-12 20:45:25 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 doral 于 2009-8-12 23:18 编辑

相信有很多同学都看过台湾那个节目《国民大会》(附上视频地址http://tieba.baidu.com/f?z=61192 ... F%CB%D1%B7&pn=0
马小姐说的原话是,他说他的妈妈有中国人的血液,所以他认为他就有中国人的血统。
但是!!我们不能像棒子一样YY整个人类的起源都是棒子国的,本着实事求是的严谨态度,让我们来求证老迈的中国血统来源!~
只是针对老迈血统这个事情,老迈是很爱很爱中国歌迷的,所以,无论结果如何,请大家爱他的心情不要受这个影响噢~~
下面就开始吧!
网络上流传很多是说Katherine 有1/4的中国血统,所以我们推算Katherine 的外公外婆或者是爷爷奶奶任意一个为中国人,或者是中国混血……

下面引用自维基百科中Katherine的资料。

母亲:Katherine Esther Scruse(凯瑟琳·伊瑟·斯库瑟)
1930年5月4日生于美国阿拉巴马州的巴伯县,是父亲Prince Albert Screws与母亲Martha Mattie Upshaw的女儿。

她有一个妹妹Hattie Scruse。Katherine在两岁岁时患过小儿麻痹症,她的腿因此也留下后遗症以至于她行动不便。父亲Prince Screws在她四岁那年将姓改为Scruse,随后家庭移居到印第安纳州的加里。

在这里她认识了约瑟夫·杰克逊并成为他的妻子。


我们从Prince Albert Screws(Katherine的老爸)开始探访老迈神奇的中国血统之源……(好有走进科学的FEEL!~

Birth:  Oct. 16, 1907
Jernigan
Russell County
Alabama, USA
Death:  Jan. 21, 1997
Lake
Kankakee County
Illinois, USA

Prince Albert was the son of Julia Bell and Prince Screws, he was born in Jernigan, Russell, Alabama.Prince was the brother of Richard, Katie, Hattie, Ann and Willie.He and his wife Martha "Mattie" were the parents of two daughters, Hattie and Katie.Katie "Katherine" married Joe Jackson.
(Prince Albert 是 Julia Bell and Prince Screws的儿子,他出生在亚拉巴马州。Jernigan, Russell是小地名,楼主不幸是理科生……对这个完全无知,o(╯□╰)o,他的兄弟姐妹有Richard, Katie, Hattie, Ann and Willie ,他和他的妻子Martha "Mattie有两个女儿,Hattie and Katie,Katie就是迈妈Katherine,后来嫁给Joe Jackson)
Family links:
Parents:
  Prince Screws (1878 - 1933)
  Julia Belle Jordan Screws (1882 - 1941)


这个是Prince Albert Screws的照片……
外公长得蛮帅的。


现在让我们来看看老迈外公的父亲,该叫什么来着?曾祖父?也就是Katherine的爷爷……(我刚刚居然迷茫了!)

曾祖父的名字是Prince Screws (1878 - 1933)
以下是Google来的资料~
Birth:  Nov. 1, 1878
Russell County
Alabama, USA
Death:  Nov., 1933
Russell County
Alabama, USA

Prince was the son of Mary Etta and Prince Screws.
Prince married Julia Belle Jordan in 1897. They were the parents of Katie, Hattie, Willie Ann, Richard, and Prince Albert Screws.

Prince and his wife Julia were the Great Grandparents of Michael Jackson, the King of Pop.


曾祖父的照片找不到……我Google无能,传唤高人,我们能知道的就是,曾祖父不是中国人,但不知道是不是混血。所以还要持续挖掘……
呼唤bestdaddy啊!!!我觉得你是高人。嘿嘿。

下面是曾祖母。

Julia Belle Jordan Screws

Birth:  Sep., 1882
Alabama, USA
Death:  Aug. 4, 1941
Alabama, USA

Julia was the daughter of Sallie and George Jordan. Her farmer was a farmer and blacksmith.

Julia was the great Grandmother of Michael Jackson.


曾祖母。也就是Katherine的奶奶,也不是中国人。

下面来看让我们Katherine的妈妈老迈的外婆
Martha "Mattie" Upshaw Scruse Bridges

Birth:  Dec. 14, 1907
Alabama, USA
Death:  Apr. 29, 1990
Los Angeles County
California, USA

Martha was the daughter of Jeanette Brown and Daniel Upshaw.

Martha married Prince Albert Screws (later changed to Scruse). They were the parents of two daughters, Hattie and Katie "Katherine" Esther Scruse.


Katherine的外公则是Daniel Upshaw

Minerva 和 Jonas UPSHAW 结婚生下Daniel UPSHAW
Daniel UPSHAW  和 Jeanette BROWN结婚.生下 Martha "Mattie" Upshaw (Katherine的妈妈)
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Minerva 是现在查到唯一一个没有姓的,暂时列为突破点,不过很有可能是资料没有记录完整。
楼主现在崩溃中,暂时更新到这里,希望感兴趣的同学一起来找线索啊!~~~~
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-8-12 20:48:23 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 doral 于 2009-8-12 23:44 编辑

此楼为帖子字数超标时准备……


老迈家的family tree,找到的时候是逆序的,为了大家更好理解,现在我按顺序排列如下。(上面2位的是Joe那边的,下面两位是Katherine那边的)

Generation No. 1

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1. Prince SCREWS was born BET 1826 AND 1828 in Alabama, and died in Jernigan, Russell Co., AL.  


2. Mary Etta was born BET 1847 AND 1850 in Alabama, and died 20 MAR 1920 in Russell Co., AL.  
   
Children of Mary Etta and Prince SCREWS are:    i. Molly SCREWS was born BET 1866 AND 1867 in Russell Co., AL.
    ii. Dennis John SCREWS was born 1870 in Russell Co., AL.
    iii. Clara SCREWS was born BET 1871 AND 1872 in Russell Co., AL.
    iv. Matty SCREWS was born BET 1873 AND 1874 in Russell Co., AL.
    v. Fanny SCREWS was born BET 1874 AND 1875 in Russell Co., AL.
5.   vi. Prince SCREWS was born 1 NOV 1878 in Russell Co., AL, and died NOV 1933 in Russell Co., AL. He married Julia Belle JORDAN 1897 in Alabama. She was born JAN 1882 in Alabama, and died 4 AUG 1941 in Russell Co., AL.  

3. Jonas UPSHAW.  


4. Minerva.  
   
Child of Minerva and Jonas UPSHAW is:7.   i. Daniel UPSHAW. He married Jeanette BROWN.  

Generation No. 2

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5. Prince SCREWS was born 1 NOV 1878 in Russell Co., AL, and died NOV 1933 in Russell Co., AL. He was the son of 24. Prince SCREWS and 25. Mary Etta.


6. Julia Belle JORDAN was born JAN 1882 in Alabama, and died 4 AUG 1941 in Russell Co., AL.  
   
Children of Julia Belle JORDAN and Prince SCREWS are:    i. Richard SCREWS was born APR 1899 in Alabama. He married Ada ABT 1920. She was born BET 1901 AND 1902 in Alabama.  
    ii. Hattie B. SCREWS was born 1902 in Alabama.
    iii. Willie Ann SCREWS was born 1905 in Alabama.
11.   iv. Prince Albert SCRUSE was born 16 OCT 1907 in Jernigan, Russell Co., AL, and died 21 JAN 1997 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL. He married Martha UPSHAW ABT 1927 in Alabama, daughter of Daniel UPSHAW and Jeanette BROWN. She was born 14 DEC 1907 in Alabama, and died 29 APR 1990 in Los Angeles Co., CA.  
    v. Katie SCREWS.




7. Daniel UPSHAW. He was the son of 28. Jonas UPSHAW and 29. Minerva.


8. Jeanette BROWN.  
   
Children of Jeanette BROWN and Daniel UPSHAW are:12.   i. Martha UPSHAW was born 14 DEC 1907 in Alabama, and died 29 APR 1990 in Los Angeles Co., CA. She married Prince Albert SCRUSE ABT 1927 in Alabama, son of Prince SCREWS and Julia Belle JORDAN. He was born 16 OCT 1907 in Jernigan, Russell Co., AL, and died 21 JAN 1997 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL.  
    ii. Mary UPSHAW was born 14 DEC 1907.

Generation No. 3

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9. Samuel JACKSON was born BET 1899 AND 1900.  


10. Crystal Lee KING was born ABT 1900. (从姓名上来看,LEE(李)和KING(金)很中国特色啊,这位也可以列作突破点,不过是Joe那方的关系,如果Daniel UPSHAW还是无法查到,楼主决定从这里入手……)   
Children of Crystal Lee KING and Samuel JACKSON are:
13 i. Joseph Walter JACKSON was born 26 JUL 1929 in Fountain Hill, Ashley Co., AR, and died . He married Katherine Esther SCRUSE 5 NOV 1949 in Crown Point, IN, daughter of Prince Albert SCRUSE and Martha UPSHAW. She was born 4 MAY 1930 in Barbour Co., AL, and died .  





11. Prince Albert SCRUSE was born 16 OCT 1907 in Jernigan, Russell Co., AL, and died 21 JAN 1997 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL. He was the son of 12. Prince SCREWS and 13. Julia Belle JORDAN.


12. Martha UPSHAW was born 14 DEC 1907 in Alabama, and died 29 APR 1990 in Los Angeles Co., CA. She was the daughter of 14. Daniel UPSHAW and 15. Jeanette BROWN.
   
Children of Martha UPSHAW and Prince Albert SCRUSE are:3.   i. Katherine Esther SCRUSE was born 4 MAY 1930 in Barbour Co., AL, and died . She married Joseph Walter JACKSON 5 NOV 1949 in Crown Point, IN, son of Samuel JACKSON and Crystal Lee KING. He was born 26 JUL 1929 in Fountain Hill, Ashley Co., AR, and died .  
    ii. Living SCRUSE.


Generation No. 4
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13. Joseph Walter JACKSON was born 26 JUL 1929 in Fountain Hill, Ashley Co., AR, and died . He was the son of 4. Samuel JACKSON and 5. Crystal Lee KING.


14. Katherine Esther SCRUSE was born 4 MAY 1930 in Barbour Co., AL, and died . She was the daughter of 6. Prince Albert SCRUSE and 7. Martha UPSHAW.
   
Children of Katherine Esther SCRUSE and Joseph Walter JACKSON are:   
    i. Maureen Reilette JACKSON was born 29 MAY 1950 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . She married Living BROWN.  
    ii. Sigmund Esco JACKSON was born 4 MAY 1951 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . He married Enid A. SPANN 1974. She was born 27 JUN 1954, and died 20 DEC 1997.  
    iii. Tariano Adaryll JACKSON was born 15 OCT 1953 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . He married Delores Vilma MARTES 16 JUN 1972 in Los Angeles Co., CA, daughter of ? DEL RIO and Living ESTEVEZ. She was born 2 APR 1955 in New York, and died 27 AUG 1994 in Los Angeles Co., CA.  
    iv. Jermaine LaJuane JACKSON was born 11 DEC 1954 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . He married Living MALDONADO. He married Living GORDY. He married Living OIAZA. He married Living RASHEED.  
    v. LaToya Yvonne JACKSON was born 29 MAY 1956 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . She married Jack L. GORDON 1989 in Las Vegas, Clark Co., NV. He was born 10 NOV 1938, and died 19 APR 2005.  
    vi. Brandon JACKSON was born 12 MAR 1957 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died 12 MAR 1957 in Gary, Lake Co., IN.
    vii. Marlon David JACKSON was born 12 MAR 1957 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . He married Living PARKER.  
    viii. Michael Joseph JACKSON was born 29 AUG 1958 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died 25 JUN 2009 in Los Angeles Co., CA. He married Lisa Marie PRESLEY 18 MAY 1994, daughter of Elvis Aron PRESLEY and Priscilla Ann WAGNER. She was born 1 FEB 1968 in Memphis, Shelby Co., TN, and died . He married Living ROWE, daughter of Living ROWE and Living CHILCUTT.  
1.   ix. Steven Randall JACKSON was born 30 OCT 1961 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . He married Living SHAFFE. He married Living OIAZA.  
    x. Janet Damita Jo JACKSON was born 16 MAY 1966 in Gary, Lake Co., IN, and died . She married Living DEBARGE. She married Living ELIZONDO.  




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本帖最后由 doral 于 2009-8-17 16:52 编辑

感兴趣的童鞋们大家一起来啊……


不幸被关闭,本贴应该不会再更新,需要知道后续结果的童鞋可以站短楼主。

8.16更新,虽然被移回King of pop区。但是不知为何没有开放……╮(╯▽╰)╭

最近非常非常忙,没有时间查这个……
所以现在还没有什么进度……o(╯□╰)o
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发表于 2009-8-12 20:49:28 | 显示全部楼层
我保持跟进 ;楼主加油!
HEAL THE WORLD
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MJ外祖母:Martha "Mattie" Upshaw Scruse Bridges

Birth:  Dec. 14, 1907
Alabama, USA
Death:  Apr. 29, 1990
Los Angeles County
California, USA

Martha was the daughter of Jeanette Brown and Daniel Upshaw.

Martha married Prince Albert Screws (later changed to Scruse). They were the parents of two daughters, Hattie and Katie "Katherine" Esther Scruse.

Katherine married Joe Jackson in 1949, they were the parents of Michael, Janet, LaToya, Jermaine, Steven "Randy", Marlon, Brandon, Sigmund "Jackie", Maureen "Rebbie" and Tariano "Tito" Jackson.

Martha's beloved grandson Michael Jackson, passed away June 25, 2009.

Family links:
Spouse:
  Prince Albert Scruse (1907 - 1997)
end of an era
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发表于 2009-8-12 20:52:46 | 显示全部楼层
图片看到了!老爷子活了90岁!
MJ是我的神,他完美无瑕!
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呵呵,没看懂。结果是啥?
你在哪里,时光如何对你……
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-8-12 21:00:14 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,没看懂。结果是啥?
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结果还在调查中……嘿嘿。。
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MJ外祖母:Martha "Mattie" Upshaw Scruse Bridges

Birth:  Dec. 14, 1907
Alabama, USA
Death:  Apr. 29, 1990
Los Angeles County
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Martha was the daughter of Jeanette Brown and Da ...
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看来我们谷到的是同一个网站……
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发表于 2009-8-12 21:02:05 | 显示全部楼层
他们家人好长寿。。。。MJ怎么就没继承这点呀,哎。。。。
残酷的现实绝不会给梦境一个存在的理由
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结果还在调查中……嘿嘿。。
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晕倒~~~~~
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发表于 2009-8-12 21:04:19 | 显示全部楼层
最好是有机会问下迈妈。。==
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最好是有机会问下迈妈。。==
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我也想……但是我没有迈妈的电话……╮(╯▽╰)╭
我们来自己查一样的~~~
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发表于 2009-8-12 21:08:12 | 显示全部楼层
LZ真可爱,没错,我们不能跟棒子学,
看MJ妈妈年轻时的一张照片确实感觉有东方女人的韵味,
不过MJ嘛,倒是没看出来,汗。
能够主宰我的只有我的内心……
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发表于 2009-8-12 21:10:09 | 显示全部楼层
我第一次看到迈妈那张i’ll be there 照片,我觉得像越南人,因为越南人普遍比中国人黑一点。

也许迈妈真的有中国人血统,或者东方人,至少是亚裔血统。
当你觉得他是king的时候,他是小孩,当你觉得他是小孩的时候,他是king。
天才,勤奋,自律,相信自己可以做得更好
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