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刚刚出的独家采访，全是猛料！！！ 重点部分先翻译点。其它部分睡不着的人可以先补充着！！
FRANKLY SPEAKING
An exclusive HITS interview with Frank DiLeo
July 30, 2009
Industry vet Frank DiLeo, who was the manager of Michael Jackson from 1984 through 1989, returned to the fold to help guide the superstar through his “This Is It” concerts and presumably beyond, but it was not to be. Here, the industry veteran shares his thoughts with HITS’ own ambulance-chasing Roy Trakin.
This is like Godfather III… Just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in. How did you get involved with Michael again?
怎么和MJ重新开始的？
Michael first called me a couple of years ago, after he came back from Bahrain, then was in Ireland and Vegas for a while. We chitchatted, he called again and we started communicating about film projects. There were a couple of scripts we wanted to develop and produce. Then he got involved in this concert deal. He called me in March and said, “Frank, I need someone with a little bit of experience. Would you like to manage me again and take care of all this stuff?” And I said, “Yeah, sure.” By the time I came in, everything was signed. Dr. Thome Thome—who is someone I don’t want to talk about in this interview—had miscalculated the scheduling on the dates, which is something I had to take care of, because Michael didn’t want to perform more than twice a week.
MJ几年前从巴林回来后，给他打电话。他们打算做几个项目。然后MJ参与到这个演唱会项目里去了。3月，MJ打电话要Frank来当经纪人。但当他去的时候，一切东西都签署好了。当时那个MJ经纪人Thome Thome（Frank不想谈他），在给MJ安排演唱会日程时，计算错误，这就是Frank必须要来关照的问题之一，因为MJ每周想表演的场次不会超过两场。
Was Michael aware that he was signing for up to 50 individual shows?
MJ知道他签了50场演出吗？
Absolutely. I read the contract. I know what the minimum amount of dates were, as well as the maximum number of dates. That contract was read to Michael by three different lawyers, as well as Dr. Thome. He wanted to beat Prince’s record and be in the Guinness Book of World Records. He was the one who picked the number 50. There were enough ticket sales to do 85 shows, but he was zeroed in on 50. That’s what he wanted and that’s what happened. Dr. Thome had him doing three or four shows a week, though. I was adjusting and moving dates to try to make it more palatable for Michael to do.
MJ当然知道。Frank看了合同。他知道最低要表演多少场，最多要表演多少场。3个律师和经纪人Thome给MJ念了合同。 MJ想打破歌手Prince的记录，并再度创造吉尼斯世界记录。
MJ可以做85场演出的，但他选择了50这个整数。 那就是他想要的。可是，Thome要MJ每周表演3到4场，Frank则要把场次调整得更加合理。
What had you been doing since managing Michael the first time?
I was in New York with a management company in the ’90s. I retired for a while and spent some time with my son and daughter, seeing them through college. My kids didn’t get a lot of time with me growing up because I was on tour so much, so I felt I owed them that. And that lasted seven years. I did a lot of consulting work. I owned a piece of Tribeca Grill with Robert DeNiro, which did very well. In 2004 I lost my eyesight, and it’s taken six operations to enable me to see. I still have limited vision. It was a diabetic condition that separated the retina. I lost complete sight in one eye and 80% in the other eye. It took two years for them to figure that out. There’s a lot of scar tissue still, and I don’t see well in light. I have to wear dark glasses all the time. I have to move my head to see certain letters because I have a permanent “V” in my vision.
You sat in on most of the rehearsals.
你参与了大多数排演吗？
Every single one. He was in good condition. He was working out with Lou Ferrigno. He was dancing over three hours every day after his workout. He was prepared. A lot of times he would watch and direct. These are songs he’s sung his whole life. He didn’t have to go full out every day. The last couple of weeks, he stepped it up. On the night before he died, when he came down after doing 10 or 11 songs, Kenny Ortega was at the bottom of the stairs, we all hugged and Michael put his arm around us and we around him, to walk him to his dressing room. And he said, “Frank, I’m ready. I’m doing all 50 shows. Don’t even think that I’m not.” We talked about possibly doing stadiums after the 50. He said, “Frank, I’ve never been happier. Since you’ve been back, things are going well. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We did it once. This is our time to do it again.” And that was the last time I saw him alive.
Frank说他每一场都看了，MJ状态很好。和健身教练 Lou Ferrigno一起工作。每天跳舞超过三小时。他充分准备好了。很多时间他也在旁观看和导演。这些歌曲他唱了一辈子。他不会每天都完整来一起。在他死前一天，他唱了10到11首歌，Kenny Ortega 在阶梯下等着，然后MJ和他和Frank拥抱，然后互相搀扶着走进化妆室。他对Frank说：“我准备好了。我会演50场。别认为我演不了！”他们还谈了在50场演出后，开始到大体育场表演。他说“Frank, 我从来没有这么快乐过，你回来后，一切都变好了。我可以看见隧道尽头的光芒。我们曾经成功过。现在是时候再度成功了。”
People were saying Michael was down to 110 pounds and wasn’t in good physical shape.
人们在说MJ体重下降到110磅，身体也不行。
No, that’s all bullish. He was not down to 110 pounds. He was around 140. At his maximum, he was maybe 155.
Frank说全是狗屁。MJ没有下降到110磅。MJ的体重在140磅，或者155磅左右。
You’re telling me this is a very confident guy, ready to take on this challenge.
He knew he was 50 and that the other dancers were young. He built his stamina up to the point where he knew he could do it. Michael’s a competitive guy. I don’t care whether you’re five years old or 40, you’re not going to out-dance Michael Jackson. He’s gonna put it to you sooner or later. And he worked himself up to that.
How did you originally hear about Michael falling ill?
A fan called and said there was an ambulance in front of Michael’s house. I had just sat down to lunch. I called Michael’s assistant and asked what was going on, and I was told there was something wrong and he was on his way over there. So I got in my car and drove over. When I got to the gate, they told me everyone had already left. I turned around and went to UCLA Medical Center, and while I was in the car, Katherine called and I told her she should meet us at the hospital. So we went in the back, and they were working on him in the room. So I thought he was going to be OK. Then the nurse came out, she looked at me and I looked at her… I almost fainted. The look told me it was over, but they would keep working on him until his mother arrived. Meanwhile, the kids were all there, in another room. I had to go in with a doctor and a social worker to tell them what happened. And those are two things I never, ever want to do again. Excuse me a minute, I might cry here. Let me get a sip of water.
What was the children’s reaction?
Exactly what you think it would be: [they] ran up to me, grabbed me, crying and screaming. Finally, Jermaine and LaToya showed up, then Randy… And a social worker started talking to all of them. Meanwhile, I was dealing with the press, trying to keep everybody out, and set up some security. At that point, they said the kids wanted to see their dad. So they moved Michael into a room and covered him. I went in first, got a chance to hug him, kiss him and say goodbye, and 20 minutes later, the kids and the rest of the family got to do the same thing. Everybody forgets. Michael wasn’t just a client to me; he was my friend. I always managed him from that basis. We were friends in the ’80s, and we were friends after he fired me. We were always friends.
Were you aware that Michael had a prescription drug problem?
你知道MJ有依赖处方药的问题吗？
I didn’t know. I realize it’s come out that he did go to rehab. I asked him in March about it, and he got very indignant. He said, “Frank, do you think I would do something that would jeopardize my kids and leave them alone? Don’t be ridiculous.” So what do you say? Do addicts ever admit they’re doing drugs? No. So, I got to take the man’s word. He’s 50 years old. How far could I push him? I never heard of the stuff he supposedly took [propofol]. When I heard about that on TV, I couldn’t believe it.
Frank说不知道。3月的时候他问过MJ，MJ很愤慨。MJ说，“Frank，你认为我会做那种危及我孩子的事，最后撒手把他们丢在人间吗？别那么可笑了好吗！”
“他五十岁了。我还能怎么样逼着他？我从来没有听说他在用什么所谓的丙泊酚。当我在电视上听到这个说法后，我简直不能相信。”
Do you have any opinion about the two doctors under investigation, Dr. Arnold Klein and Dr. Conrad Murray?
你对两个被调查的医生有什么看法？
Michael’s gone to Dr. Klein for years. I don’t know how Michael met Dr. Murray. Michael brought him up to me when he mentioned that part of his contract required AEG to hire him a doctor to be with him in London, and he specified he wanted Dr. Murray, claiming he was his family doctor. The original price he asked for was outrageous. I told Michael I could buy him a whole hospital for that kind of money.
MJ去Klein医生的诊所很多年了。但Frank不知道MJ怎么遇见Murray的。MJ向我提出Frank的时候，是说他的协议要求AEG雇佣一个医生陪他去伦敦, Murray是他的家庭医生。但是Murray医生当时索要的薪酬是天文数字。Frank告诉MJ说，这笔钱可以买下一个医院了！
The press reports said AEG was paying him $150k a month.
媒体说AEG花每月15万美圆的价格雇佣了他。
That’s what I OK’d. What he originally asked for was astronomical. AEG did not hire the doctor. That was Michael’s doctor for months. AEG just advanced him the payment, which was part of the budget. I had one meeting with him, making sure Michael had the right vitamins, what kind of smoothies to make, should it be G2 or Gatorade after the show? He told us he was a cardiologist, and I said, “Michael, this is perfect. Because I’ve already had three heart attacks and I have seven stents in my heart. If I drop over in London, this guy’s right there.”
那是Frank批准的。他最初索要的价格是天文数字。AEG没有雇佣这个医生。他已经担任MJ医生几个月了。AEG只是提前支付了这笔雇佣费，那是预算之一。我曾经和他见过一次，确保MJ保持维他命供给，以及需要些什么辅助的东西。他告诉Frank说他是心脏病医生，Frank还开玩笑说，他曾经心脏病突发了几次，如果在伦敦倒下了，这个医生正好救他。。。。
Dr. Murray was the last man to see Michael Jackson alive.
Murray医生是最后一个看见MJ活着的人。He was, yes. Nobody knows what happened in that room. We have to wait for the toxicology and the autopsy. I do know the preliminary autopsy said Michael’s organs were in good shape, his liver was good, his heart was strong. They said he did not have a heart attack. It had to be some sort of allergic reaction or something that didn’t blend right. There was some sort of reaction.
他是。没有人知道房间里发生了什么。Frank说，“我们必须等待毒物和验尸报告出来。我的确知道初步验尸结果，MJ的器官都在很好的状态。他的肝很好，他的心脏很强健。他们说他根本没有什么心脏病突发！问题出在可能是过敏或其它一些没对头的原因。”
Where does that leave you at this point?
There are a few things that have to get cleared up. I have to make sure the estate understands some of the things that I know. I’ve been appointed to the board of Sony/ATV Music Publishing. So I have a role to play there. Michael wrote the letter getting me appointed. After they removed Dr. Thome, they added myself and Joel Katz.
Does it sadden you to see how the family’s inner disagreements are now being aired in public?
It’s sad to the point that there’s a lot of misinformation. The family didn’t know what was going on. They didn’t see Michael every day like I did. He was the closest to his mother and his kids. But I gave him that personal space to be with his family. Some of them are talking about things I don’t think they have the knowledge to talk about. That’s just emotion. They have to face the facts and make some decisions.
What was Michael’s relationship like with his father?
Joe was his father, and that’s what Michael wanted. He didn’t want to know about any business. He just wanted him to be his father. He wanted to be loved as a son, not a commodity.
Did he ever get that?
I don’t know. Watch the Larry King interview with Joe Jackson and you make that determination. It was a train wreck.
You must still be in a state of shock.
你一定还在震惊状态中。
Michael created one of the greatest shows ever, a $27 million production. I went through it with him every day. It’s sad that people will never get to see that. But the key thing here is that I lost my friend. That’s what matters to me. All this other stuff is what it is.
“MJ创造了历史上最伟大的演出之一，一个耗费2700万美圆打造的巨献。我每天都看他表演。人们永远不能看到它，实在太悲哀了。但关键的问题，是我失去了我的朋友。那才是最重要的。”
Where is your nickname “Tookie” come from?
That’s derived from the name “Tookie.” The chief of police in Pittsburgh came to see my dad when I was born and called me that. Then it became “Tukkie” when I met my wife. Everybody I know from childhood calls me “Tookie.” For everybody after I met my wife, it’s “Tukkie.” We’ve been married for 32 years. I’m the only guy in the record business who’s never had to go to rehab or get a divorce.
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